Temperature independent fuel mixing - Revision history

Poisonbl: Add a comment at the end about nitrous fuel.

2025-03-22T21:44:31Z

Add a comment at the end about nitrous fuel.

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	j ra		j ra
	</pre>		</pre>

			And, for Vol+N2O, skip the (2*T.v) multiplier to get the 50/50 mix.

Poisonbl: Add a bit of IC10 code, and note which input is which on the mixer.

2025-03-16T03:35:34Z

Add a bit of IC10 code, and note which input is which on the mixer.

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 '''Build:'''
-This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''Input''' and the '''O2 pipe''' to '''Input2'''<br>
+This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''Input''' (the straight input) and the '''O2 pipe''' to '''Input2''' (the side input)<br>
 gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + (Temp.oxygen / (2 * Temp.volatiles)))
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 *gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + T.o/(2*T.v))
 This is the final equation when H2 connects to input 1, the result will be sent to the gas mixer

Poisonbl: Link Pipe_Gas_Mixer on the first mention.

2025-03-16T00:12:08Z

Link Pipe_Gas_Mixer on the first mention.

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	Making fuel with a gas mixer set to 33:67 works fine when the incoming O2 and H2 have the same temperature. But when the temperature is different, the mix will become incorrect.		Making fuel with a [[Pipe_Gas_Mixer\|gas mixer]] set to 33:67 works fine when the incoming O2 and H2 have the same temperature. But when the temperature is different, the mix will become incorrect.

	To get a perfect fuel mix regardless of the temperature difference, a circuit can be used to calculate which gas mixer setting to use. The gas mixer will accept decimal values, so it's incredibly accurate. This allows it to always make a perfect 1:2 mix. Just don't forget that making hot fuel will lead to explosions, if that should happen, please enjoy the strongest and most perfect explosion possible.		To get a perfect fuel mix regardless of the temperature difference, a circuit can be used to calculate which gas mixer setting to use. The gas mixer will accept decimal values, so it's incredibly accurate. This allows it to always make a perfect 1:2 mix. Just don't forget that making hot fuel will lead to explosions, if that should happen, please enjoy the strongest and most perfect explosion possible.

MyPickle: Linking to labeller

2025-01-18T23:23:44Z

Linking to labeller

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:23, 18 January 2025
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	1) Ratio.o/Ratio.v = T.o/(2T.v)		1) Ratio.o/Ratio.v = T.o/(2T.v)
	This is our first equation.<br>		This is our first equation.<br>
	We now have two unknowns, Ratio.o and Ratio.v, and one equation. The gas mixer can give us another equation, looking at the input values of it tells us that it accepts values between 0 and 100, it even takes decimal values if the ~~Labeler~~ is used which is great, it means there won't be any rounding errors in the fuel, it will really be a perfect 1:2 ratio. Treating 100 as 100% means ratio.o and ratio.v makes more sense to use, we can just multiply with 100 at the end to give the gas mixer the value range it wants, doing it this way means we can avoid some clutter so the formulas are easier to read		We now have two unknowns, Ratio.o and Ratio.v, and one equation. The gas mixer can give us another equation, looking at the input values of it tells us that it accepts values between 0 and 100, it even takes decimal values if the [[Labeller]] is used which is great, it means there won't be any rounding errors in the fuel, it will really be a perfect 1:2 ratio. Treating 100 as 100% means ratio.o and ratio.v makes more sense to use, we can just multiply with 100 at the end to give the gas mixer the value range it wants, doing it this way means we can avoid some clutter so the formulas are easier to read
	*2) Ratio.o + Ratio.v = 100% = 1		*2) Ratio.o + Ratio.v = 100% = 1
	Two equations, two unknowns. This can be solved.<br>		Two equations, two unknowns. This can be solved.<br>

2406:2D40:73C6:B610:7CB2:BCA5:A3F:77A3: Clarifications, simplifications and extra (unnecessary) brackets to the formula for those non math people who are not that familiar with the order of operations.

2024-07-17T11:21:34Z

Clarifications, simplifications and extra (unnecessary) brackets to the formula for those non math people who are not that familiar with the order of operations.

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	'''Build:'''		'''Build:'''

	This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''~~input~~''' and the '''O2 pipe''' to '''~~input2~~'''<br>		This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''Input''' and the '''O2 pipe''' to '''Input2'''<br>
	gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )		gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + (Temp.oxygen / (2 * Temp.volatiles)))

	*Connect the H2 pipe to input 1 and O2 pipe to input 2		*Connect the H2 pipe to input 1 and O2 pipe to input 2
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	*1 logic writer to send the result to the gas mixer		*1 logic writer to send the result to the gas mixer
	**The gas mixer will accept decimal values, so the mix will be a perfect 2:1 mix of H2 and O2		**The gas mixer will accept decimal values, so the mix will be a perfect 2:1 mix of H2 and O2


	'''Extra:'''		'''Extra:'''
	*If the O2 pipe connects to ~~input 1 (~~the ~~side)~~ instead, the equation to use is		*If the Oxygen pipe connects to '''Input''', and the Volatiles to '''Input2''' instead, the equation to use is
	*gas mixer setting = ~~100 - (~~100 / (1 + ~~Temp.oxygen/~~(~~2Temp.volatiles))), which simplifies to 100 / (1 +~~ (2*Temp.volatiles)/Temp.oxygen)		*gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + ((2 Temp.volatiles) / Temp.oxygen))
	**This means B above must be ~~changed~~ to B = A/Temp.oxygen		**This means B above must be swapped to B = A / Temp.oxygen
	*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network		*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network
	*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel		*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel

2406:2D40:73C6:B610:7CB2:BCA5:A3F:77A3: Clarification on gas mixer. Changed Input1 to Input, and added a reference to Input2

2024-07-17T10:55:29Z

Clarification on gas mixer. Changed Input1 to Input, and added a reference to Input2

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	'''Build:'''		'''Build:'''

	This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''input 1'''<br>		This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''input''' and the '''O2 pipe''' to '''input2'''<br>
	gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )		gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )

Aikahona: Removed another relative "side" reference

2024-07-13T06:30:16Z

Removed another relative "side" reference

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	'''Build:'''		'''Build:'''

	This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''input 1'''~~(the side)~~<br>		This part will turn the following equation into a circuit, it will only work when the '''H2 pipe''' is connected to '''input 1'''<br>
	gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )		gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )

Aikahona: Fixed (removed) top & side reference which are relative and can be confusing

2024-07-13T06:29:30Z

Fixed (removed) top & side reference which are relative and can be confusing

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	gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )		gas mixer setting = 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2*Temp.volatiles) )

	*Connect the H2 pipe to input 1 ~~(side)~~ and O2 pipe to input 2 ~~(top)~~		*Connect the H2 pipe to input 1 and O2 pipe to input 2
	*2 pipe analyzers		*2 pipe analyzers
	**On the O2 and H2 sides		**On the O2 and H2 sides

109.250.32.138: add simplification to O2 part of formula

2023-08-20T18:18:55Z

add simplification to O2 part of formula

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	'''Extra:'''		'''Extra:'''
	*If the O2 pipe connects to input 1 (the side) instead, the equation to use is		*If the O2 pipe connects to input 1 (the side) instead, the equation to use is
	*gas mixer setting = 100 - ( 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2Temp.volatiles) ) )		*gas mixer setting = 100 - (100 / (1 + Temp.oxygen/(2Temp.volatiles))), which simplifies to 100 / (1 + (2*Temp.volatiles)/Temp.oxygen)
			**This means B above must be changed to B = A/Temp.oxygen
	*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network		*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network
	*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel		*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel
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	To make it easier to look at, lets substitute T.o/(2*T.v) for k		To make it easier to look at, lets substitute T.o/(2*T.v) for k
	*Ratio.o = k / (1 + k)		*Ratio.o = k / (1 + k)
			*Ratio.o = 1 / (1/k + 1)
			The 1/k part is annoying, but since the substitution is a fraction we can shuffle things around
			k = T.o/(2T.v)
			1/k = (2T.v)/T.o
			Inserting that gives
			Ratio.o = 1 / ((2T.v)/T.o + 1)
	Now we will multiply with 100 to get a value between 0 and 100 which the gas mixer wants.		Now we will multiply with 100 to get a value between 0 and 100 which the gas mixer wants.
	gas mixer setting = 100 T.o/(2T.v) / ~~(1 +~~ T.o~~/(2T.v)~~)		gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + (2T.v)/T.o)
	This is the final equation when O2 connects to input 1, the result will be sent to the gas mixer		This is the final equation when O2 connects to input 1, the result will be sent to the gas mixer

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	gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + T.o/(2T.v))		gas mixer setting = 100 / (1 + T.o/(2T.v))
	This is the final equation when H2 connects to input 1, the result will be sent to the gas mixer		This is the final equation when H2 connects to input 1, the result will be sent to the gas mixer

	~~As it turns out, the Ratio.v equation is shorter and choosing that one means one less math operation.~~

31.18.102.103: Formula Refinement for easier circuits and logic.

2021-11-06T01:40:58Z

Formula Refinement for easier circuits and logic.

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	'''Extra:'''		'''Extra:'''
	*If the O2 pipe connects to input 1 (the side) instead, the equation to use is		*If the O2 pipe connects to input 1 (the side) instead, the equation to use is
	*gas mixer setting = 100 ( ~~Temp.oxygen / (2Temp.volatiles) )~~ / ( (1 + Temp.oxygen / (2Temp.volatiles)) )~~<br>~~		*gas mixer setting = 100 - ( 100 / ( 1 + Temp.oxygen/(2Temp.volatiles) ) )
	*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network		*Use a PAC or Transformer to put this circuit on it's own data network
	*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel		*The circuit will require 170W on standby and 270W while mixing fuel